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May 19, 2013


Eugene Ingram Jr

I would appreciate hearing your views on Spock's mind meld with Christopher Pike as he lay dying -- for the specific purpose to feel Pike's death with all his anger and fear and confusion in those last dying moments of consciousness. That scene haunts me.

Jeffrey Siniard


I agree that's a haunting scene that works on 2 different layers. I think that Spock in his way is trying to comfort Pike, but Pike's emotion in the moment is too intense for him to shut out. It certainly seems to reinforce Spock's decision to shut out emotion in the wake of Vulcan's destruction.

It plays back nicely to Kirk's death, where Kirk tells him he's afraid and Spock is confronted with an emotional surge he can't shut out.

It's also possible this younger Spock isn't quite mature enough to handle a complex emotional moment of that kind - consider Sarek's mind meld with Kirk in ST3, or Spock Prime's mind-meld with Kirk in ST2009 as comparisons. for handling strong emotional content.

Eugene Ingram Jr

I agree with your assessment, and hadn't considered that Spock was also trying to comfort Pike. That explains why he was so devastated. Separated by glass, Spock couldn't touch his dying friend and helplessly watched Kirk pass away.

Jeffrey Siniard

What's interesting here is that being "closed off" from Kirk in that moment doesn't allow Spock to focus on what Kirk is feeling... he has to focus on what he's feeling in that moment.

This reminds me of when my grandfather passed away almost 20 years ago, and I was so busy worrying about how other people were taking it, that I forgot about my own grief.

Eugene Ingram Jr

On one occasion etched into memory, I felt similarly to Spock in the first instance with Pike. However, I'll digress deeper into the rabbit hole.

My dad was about to die in the hospital, and we communicated though yes and no questions, dad squeezing my hand twice for yes and once for no. He could not speak or open his eyes, the doctor described him as trapped in his body, but dad could obviously hear and answer questions. While I was holding his hand, I could feel and even "see" his fear, much like I could imagine Spock felt and saw Pike's, and I could see a dark void through his senses, a feeling of claustrophobic terror, like being trapped in a buried coffin.

I told him what I would imagine Spock might have, in similar context, said to Pike if Spock were older. I said "You're going to wake up and think this was a bad dream, and mother will be next to you in bed, and we will be in our rooms, and it will be 1969 all over again, and we'll do it all differently, better. Remember what I told you about my awakenings from death as if it was just a dream? I know it's real, you'll see."

Dad immediately squeezed my hand twice. I felt a relief pulse through him. Then his hand went limp. For a moment, I could see him sitting up in bed in the room they slept in decades earlier and looking around, startled. What a scary dream!

In that respect, I can relate to Spock, wanting to know if there is something beyond the "veil" besides wishful thinking.

Spock is a metaphor for us. Ever rushed around corners to almost run into people physically, but always felt an energy, an intuition, stop you inches from hitting them? I suspect we have latent abilities like the Vulcans. Spock is a metaphor for us.

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